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Note as well that people have sometimes tried to raise "other stuff exists" arguments by comparing their article to a non-equivalent situation — for example, the fact that we have an article about Hillary Clinton, even though she did not win the 2016 United States presidential election, has actually been attempted more than once as an ...
Sometimes arguments are made that other articles have been put forward for AfD and survived/deleted (the most famous example being the Pokémon test); these may be effective arguments, but even here caution should be used. Yet a small number of debates do receive wide participation and result in a decision that is effectively final, until new ...
Other stuff exists WP:OSE: Just because a similar type of article exists does not mean it makes others automatically notable Overzealous deletion WP:OVERZEALOUS WP:ZEAL: The practice of "dying to" get an article deleted Own site, subject's WP:OWNSITE: Articles cannot be referenced by nothing more than the subject's own site Phrases, common WP ...
However, the second line of the essay is "These "other stuff exists" arguments can be valid or invalid", and it goes on to expand on the many circumstances where referring to other articles (or a lack thereof) is relevant to a discussion.
Insisting the sources must exist without being able to provide them is generally to be avoided in deletion discussions. Hypothetical examples include: Keep – This is obviously notable, so it could be referenced. Prejudger 01:01, 1 January 2001 (UTC) Keep – There must be plenty of sources. Presumer 01:01, 1 January 2001 (UTC)
The new title is "When to use or avoid 'other stuff exists' arguments". If the answer to "when to use" was "never", that would be a strange title to use to make things clearer - surely something like "Avoid 'other stuff exists' arguments" would have been far better. That conversation only closed on May 6 - less than two weeks ago.
A favourite line from a movie or catchy lyric, a potent phrase used in argument, juicy facts of interest to fans, a punch-line or zinger; these are all very interesting, but usually all that can be informatively written about topic "X" is: "X is a _____ found in _____." Just about everything listed on Wikipedia:Millionth topic pool.
Paul - other stuff exists is not a valid argument (it often leads to the examples raised being deleted!). Each article has to stand on its own merits. Older articles especially were created under at-that-time lower standards. David notMD 11:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC) I have cleaned up MysteryVibe.