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Smallest saw I use on the ground is an ms460 with a 24" bar. I use it for cutting brush, briars. I don't really use the 460 much, in the tree occasionally, usually get it done with a ms200t 14" bar. Most of the time I use a 660 with a 28" bar on the ground, cutting trees. Skip the 192t and get a 200t, the 192t is a turd compared to a 200t.